How to enter backdated tasks, and let ProjeQtor re-schedule the project

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31 Mai 2018 09:43 #7 by alainforma

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Yes ! confirmed

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31 Mai 2018 11:54 #8 by NarayanAras

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I followed that step. To experiment, we chose a dummy project called "DEMO-TSS".
I am facing a problem, as described below:

After the back-dated re-calculation, the Gantt chart looks like this:

The next step was to enter the real work done by the resources for task#10.1, which begins at week#5 of 2018.
So I switched to the Real work allocation screen.

Then I selected week#5 of 2018, and one of the resources for task 10.1 (Akshath Hegde).
But the screen does not show task 10.1 for DEMO-TSS. [BUG#1].
I selected the other resources, but all of them have the same issue.

The screen has other issue also: Although the Project filter is set to DEMO-TSS, it actually shows an element from another project called TDA for ESL. [BUG#2]

As a result, I cannot enter real work for the DEMO-TSS project!

I can confirm that all resources are freely allocated to this project (the allocation start/finish dates are left blank), so the shift in dates does not affect their availability to this project.

What could cause this?

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31 Mai 2018 15:22 #9 by alainforma

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hi.
To appear on the imputation screen, work assigned to the task must be indicated, while to appear on the schedule screen only the assignment is sufficient. On the real work allocation screen, the tasks of all projects with assigned jobs always appear. Without any assigned job, they do not appear.

Additional precision: On the real work allocation screen, the filter on the project does not work voluntarily regardless of the name of the project that appears. Only the "imputation" filters that are part of this screen work. The selected resource does have a view of all the projects on which it is assigned for and can thus qualify quickly its work for one or severals of them.

Start end and end date are simply the marks of a constraint DATE, ie between these two dates - ESPECIALLY - the resource will be assigned to the project at a desired assignment rate. It means also that the ressource is not allocated anymore to the project outside these dates. If yes, reallocate anothers new dates as wish following the same process. So, dates marks will appear as soon as a constraint date is created.

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01 Jui 2018 08:10 #10 by NarayanAras

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alainforma wrote: hi.
To appear on the imputation screen, work assigned to the task must be indicated, while to appear on the schedule screen only the assignment is sufficient.

Just to confirm my understanding: I am assuming that by "imputation screen", you mean the Real work allocation screen, and by "Schedule screen", you mean Planning screen.

On the real work allocation screen, the tasks of all projects with assigned jobs always appear. Without any assigned job, they do not appear.

Yes, I know. In this case, three people are assigned work for task#10.1, as shown in the screenshot below:

All three resources are supposed to work for 8 hours on 2nd Feb (week#5 of 2018).

But the Real work allocation screen does not show 8 hours assignment to any of the three resources.
In fact, the whole project itself is missing from the screen.

Further, the Real work allocation screen is supposed to show 7 hours of work on 3rd Feb (week#6).
But the same problem continues even in Week#6. [BUG#1]

Additional precision: On the real work allocation screen, the filter on the project does not work voluntarily regardless of the name of the project that appears. Only the "imputation" filters that are part of this screen work. The selected resource does have a view of all the projects on which it is assigned for and can thus qualify quickly its work for one or severals of them.

In that case the GUI is misleading! If a control is not effective, it must be grayed out or even hidden!
If you show it prominently, the user is prompted to use it, and expect results. [BUG#2]

Start end and end date are simply the marks of a constraint DATE, ie between these two dates - ESPECIALLY - the resource will be assigned to the project at a desired assignment rate. It means also that the ressource is not allocated anymore to the project outside these dates. If yes, reallocate anothers new dates as wish following the same process. So, dates marks will appear as soon as a constraint date is created.

Yes, I know this. In fact, I made a point that since my setting does not specify a start/end date for resource allocation to this project, if I shift the project dates, it will NOT run out of the allocated window.

In other words, this setting is not likely to cause the problem I am seeing.

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01 Jui 2018 09:21 #11 by alainforma

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HI

Yes of course for your first question.
Your “Bug 1” / To be clear : have you assigned time job separately for each resource on each activities?
Your note : thinking about it.

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01 Jui 2018 10:35 - 01 Jui 2018 10:37 #12 by NarayanAras

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alainforma wrote: HI
Your “Bug 1” / To be clear : have you assigned time job separately for each resource on each activities?
Your note : thinking about it.

I may not have understood your question.

Are you asking whether I assigned all three resources to Task#10.1 at once or separately?
Well, that is possible, because this project is used for experimentation.
Thus it may have started with only one person assigned to Task#10.1.
After a few days, someone might have added one or two resources to it.
In fact, someone may delete a resource and assign a totally new resource also.

FWIW here is a screenshot of the change history of this task:

But as on today, these are the three resources who are assigned to this task.

So regardless of such past activities, they should be treated as if we have assigned Task 10.1 to all three resources together.

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