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31 Jan 2023 11:19 #7 by iFlorian
Hi,
I don't confusing Profiles and access mode. I said   I have created a profil named "reader"  (with Reader access mode everywhere only)
So "Reader" is now a profil for me. It's like a supervisor profile but without some modify rights. 
I made it clear from the start that I had created a "Reader" profile in the first post :) 
 
Currently, with Albert user we can create project with "sub-project" empty ! This is my issue I guess. Because if it is empty, the project is create on the root  tree structure, or he is not supposed to have creation rights.

Albert default profile : My Reader Profile (because he don't be able to create project anywhere but only where he has a Project Leader profile on some project (like 1.1.1 and his sub-project)) 
Albert has "Project Leader" profile on 1.1.1 (and his all sub-project inherited)

So Albert should have right to create project only under 1.1.1. Not de rest. 

Thank for help,

Best regards,
Florian



 

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01 Feb 2023 10:25 #8 by iFlorian
Good Morning ! 

To put-it in a nutshell, I have 4 profiles in this order: 
- [None rights profile] --> Order 205 --> Absolutely none rights everywhere
- [Reader profile]  --> Order 210 --> Reader rights everywhere (not reader+)
- [Project Creator profile] --> Order 220 --> Reader rights everywhere but with creator rights on project. 
- Project Leader --> Order 310 --> defaults ProjeQtor rights (no modify on this profil)

If I have understood correctly, the lower the order number, the more weight it has compared to the higher ones. 
So, in my tree structure, I have this for Albert : 

1 - Global DSI  --> here [None rights profile]
   |- 1.1 - Application & office service --> here [Reader profile]
           |- 1.1.1 - Application pole --> here [Project Creator profile]

And when Albert create a new project --> he has Project Leader profile by default (it's his default profile on his account). 

With this configuration, I identify many bugs: 
 1 - When Albert create a project : the default sub-project selected is where you are in the proejct tree (by example : 1.1), regardless of the rights on that part of the project tree. If we save, the project is created under this sub-project, even if we have no rights to create it here !
When you look at the list of sub-projects, you should only find sub-projects that you have the rights to create, right? However, we systematically find there the sub-project of our selector.

2 - When Albert creates a project: if he selects an empty choice in the sub-project, the project is created on the root project! Maybe because he has a default project manager profile on his account, but this is annoying. Isn't there a way to allow or disallow project creation on the root by account?

3 - Although Albert has no rights to 1 - Global, so he has no inheritance rights to 1.2, but he can still see the tree of all project names in the project selector. (But of course he does not see the projects in the project list).

Thank you,

Best regards,
Florian 

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"...and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do." ~ Think Different

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01 Feb 2023 11:04 #9 by alainforma
hi,
I did not read details of your organization, but i point out instantaneously that :
it seems that the sort order of the profiles and the corresponding rights is not the right one. Let me explain:
Logically, the smallest sort index in the list indicates the profile with all rights and therefore the largest index will be given to a profile with fewer rights
Ex for three profiles: TOP DOG number of sorting 1 Project leader 50 Guest 200 so numbers of the sort are increasing.
Sorting in reverse order, as it seems to be your case even if i dont check so much, naturally leads to strange behaviors

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01 Feb 2023 14:35 #10 by iFlorian
Hi Alain ! 

I have configured the profiles in this way to give more weight to the reader's profile than the project leader profile. 
The aim is to have the reader's rights on a part of the project tree (not the whole project tree : the rest is with non right profile), and to give him the possibility to read and create his own project with all the rights (Project Manager profile by default) without having the right to modify the existents projects managed by others in the same sub-project (except if he has been added with the Project Manager profile of course)

By the way, thank you very much for your training :) !

Best regards,
Florian

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06 Feb 2023 10:40 #11 by Arkhanje

I configured the profiles this way...


And it's the way to fix them that's wrong.
We have reproduced on several bases and everything is correct. The rights are well distributed and there is no bug and therefore nothing to correct on our side.

Again, review your data rights and access methods.

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06 Feb 2023 11:11 #12 by babynus
In addition to all replies, and to be clear, list of projects in project screen and in project selector may be different.
This is not a bug, this is an effect of your configuration.
Porject selector lists all projects for which the user can see an item, whatever it is (project, activity, action, metting, decision, ...)
So if user can see all actions on all project (for instance), list in project selector will show all projects.

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